For years I thought that breaking Ruths record all by itself should qualify him for the Hall, but you make a good argument. Maris doesnt have incredible career numbers 275 homers and 851. homers in 61. In 1961, the defending American League Most Valuable Player won a second straight MVP. I believe that Josh was referring to Right Field defensive play: Maris arrived a few years after Al.Kaline had already established himself as the American Leagues RightField defensive Gold Glove Champion.They were both all- time greats, defensively, but you would have had to knock out Al Kaline for Roger Maris to win the Gold Glove Award.Maris was very fast, tracked very well and had a great arm. Buffet lunch and guest speakers. Shpigel received a bachelor's degree in English and journalism from Emory University and a master's degree in journalism from Columbia University. If you're committed to voting for a Dodger and won't vote for Messersmith because pitchers have their own award, what is the argument for voting for Garvey over Wynn? But he struck out, flied out and grounded out. On the one hand, youll be remembered. His best argument comes from his two MVP awards and for breaking Babe Ruths single-season home run record. Or what if the book wins 10% more often than he should, mysteriously. To use an analogy in the sportscard world - I bought my most expensive card ever last year which was 3x more than I ever paid for a card. Just 2-3 great seasons and a few more really good seasons isnt enough. At least it still clings to 3 figures, the same seems not to apply about most who have posted here. The writers hold grudges against players they dont like for instance look at Del Ennis he had the most RBIs in the decade of the 50e more than Stan Musial, Eddie Matthews,Hank Aaron, Mickey Mantle Willie Mays and yet hes not in the HoF. He doesnt really have a long peak either. it is entirely possible that Maris cheated on his way to 61 as it certainly was a statistical anomaly for him. On the other, thats almost all youll be remembered for. For a brief period of time, about four seasons, Maris was one of the ten best outfielders in baseball. If I may point out,the collectors of baseball data are implying that all inductees do not need a special numeric threshold to be inducted. WebDuring his career Roger Maris never received the credit he deserved. He really had little baseball left in him when he played his final games for the Cardinals in 1968. His Yankee teammates formed a human wall in front of the dugout, refusing to let him enter. Four times he tried to no avail. Maris would be a very unusual selection for the Hall of Fame. I have seen plenty of highlights and video footage. game in each of three others.). Give him his goddamned plaque. Collectors Corner | It's bleeding over in to MTG. Personally, I regard Maris still to be baseballs season Home Run Leader, excluding Bonds, McGuire and Sosa. That was why he got so many RBI opportunities, and why pitchers challenged him even when runners were on base. Johnny Vander Meer: Pitched back-to-back no hitters in 1938. @CardGeek said: Should say North Dakota, sorry about the error. I've been researching sports and sports cards again for the past couple years and watching all the Dodgers games I can. Roger Maris is not in the Hall of Fame : r/NYYankees What I would like to see is retired players vote for induction in to the Hall of Fame. This also helped to counter the negative impact from the shift in the National League from smaller stadiums to the larger multi-purpose stadiums. Since 1998, he has served as the newspaper's national baseball writer. We would spend one season with Cleveland and the Oakland Athletics before being traded to the New York Yankees in a seven-player deal in December 1959. Many players who were only slightly above average and for a short time were enshrined in those years. And Mickey went to North Dakota for Roger's funeral in 1985. Excellent article. They traded him to the Athletics, and in two seasons with the As, Maris stood out as a power threat from the left side. [deleted] 9 yr. ago Before my time. He would hit two home runs in his first game as a Yankee, finishing the season with 39 home runs, a .283 batting average, and an MVP award. RSVP at Plays4pars@aol.com. The online betting stuff really bothers me too. Read2 hours ago | Michael Doran, Article viewed iconAn icon to mark the viewed articles Most Yankees fans were rooting for his home-grown teammate, Mickey Mantle. Or maybe the book would only have to win the big ones 10% more often than they should. Collectors.com | All rights reserved. Today, no one pitches back-to-back complete games! Then look at Larry Bowa when he retired he had the highest fielding percentage of all shortstops that ever played in MLB and set the record two times for fewest errors by shortstop in a season he also had the most hits by a shortstop in the history of MLB and the writers didnt like him and you guessed it hes not in the HoF. I realize Barry Bonds isn't the most humble guy. Baseball never got over it. While Maris may not be a household name for younger MLB fans, Aaron Judge's quest for 62 home runs has shone a little on the former New York slugger. The Hall of Fame Case for Roger Maris : r/baseball - Reddit Personally, I regard Maris still to be baseballs season Home Run Leader, excluding Bonds, McGuire and Sosa. I've always been a big Maris fan, but don't see how it would be possible to make it into the Hall after an 11-year career. But an infection forced the Mick out of the race in September, and he finished with 54 homers. Yes the Yankees are my favorite team but I will watch just about any team that I can get on TV. He ranks 64th in BBRef WAR among right fielders. in which I wrote that his 61 home runs looked better than ever after a half century. The 6-foot, 197-pound outfielder belted 39 homers (one behind Mantle's league-leading 40), led the AL with 112 RBI and a.581 slugging percentage, hit a career-high.283 and won his only Gold Glove. MANY players elected in the hall did not have the stats or years of modern day electees. Should Roger Clemens Be Voted Into the Hall of Fame? I agree that one great season does not make a Hall of Famer. The Indians had a glut of outfielders in their organization and inexplicably ignored the 69 homers Maris hit in three seasons in their system. To paraphrase: It does no good telling people that Henderson and Seaver were no good. He's short across the board IMO except for the fame part, which he does have. 1 year, 4 months. This is manifestly not true. Maris received three or fewer votes from the 16-member committee appointed by the Hall of Fame to review a 10-candidate Golden Era ballot. Im a big fan of Maris and his cards. A kid grabbed his hand as he turned past first - Maris shook hands and then did the same thing with third base coach Frank Crosetti as he turned past third base and headed home. He batted third in their lineup. @53BKid said: Maris did not accomplish that. He was not a (61) one-hit wonder: Roger Maris was a very good ballplayer. @ScoobyDoo2 said: Why Roger Maris Pretty much the only thing that I've learned about baseball and sports cards in the past few years is that I don't want to be involved. I don't even think there's a fair slippery slope case because in 60 years nobody without mostly verified allegations has topped him. Were gathering again for a baseball Hot Stove Luncheon (with a dash of NFL, too) on Thursday, Jan. 20 at 11:45 a.m. at Palm Valley Country Club in Palm Desert.
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